Of course this is just speculation, but look at the facts about Obama that correspond to UU's:
- He is pushing hard for the homosexual agenda - as hard as any President can. This is also gay pride month!
- Abortion is really sacred.
- He uses biblical references all the time without actually using their context in the overall picture of Christianity - the Bible (and sometimes Catholic tradition - soul of St. Aquinas via Aristotle) is used as a prop for his agenda. (Does he really believe it all? See the inaugural address too.)
- His way defines sin.
- He hasn't gone to any Church (or ecclesial community) for a while.
- His daughters go to a Quaker school. (I was personally told once by a UU (and former Catholic) that Quakers are kissing cousins.)
- One explanation why he's so open to Muslims.
As a former Catholic who became a Unitarian Universalist, I find your post amusing. Having attended several Unitarian churches over the years, I have come to the conclusion that the UU Church is a life raft for intelligent people who do not want to reject religion completely. I have been to at least one UU Church where half the congregation appeared to be former Catholics who became disgusted with the Church for various reasons.
ReplyDeleteIf President Obama is a UU, at least we have the assurance that someone intelligent is at the helm.
"... I have come to the conclusion that the UU Church is a life raft for intelligent people who do not want to reject religion completely. I have been to at least one UU Church where half the congregation appeared to be former Catholics who became disgusted with the Church for various reasons."
ReplyDeleteA life raft? The UUA is more like a raft with a million holes that are made by so many views that lead to the bottom in the end. After viewing many official pronouncements of the UUA (mostly on abortion) and seeing how the UU Principals are merely official opinions that are nice ideas, I have been "disgusted" by the inconsistencies of the UUA (as a non-cafeteria Catholic of course).
Many would see the idea of liberal religion as an up on dogmatic religions, but religions are about truth (what things are) not opinions (what people want/desire things to be). The UUA is more of a deep "conversation" club (see Monty Python and "The Meaning of Life").
"If President Obama is a UU, at least we have the assurance that someone intelligent is at the helm." (emphasis added)
Geez, I would suspect anyone who is US President has higher than average intelligence.
The idea that all UU's (thus "assurance" used for UU "brights") are more intelligent than the rest of the population (assuming you mean greater intelligence than the rest of the population) is quite an arrogant remark. Actually, the smartest people I know are faithful, non-cafeteria Catholics. The UU's who I know personally are mainly very politically active (or just talk it) for the gay "marriage" cause.
"Geez, I would suspect anyone who is US President has higher than average intelligence."
ReplyDeleteNot necessarily. See George W. Bush and Ronald "Forgetful Jones" Reagan.
As for abortion, my whole take is that if it's unborn, it's an omelet.
Enjoy your stay in a corrupt church that spoon feeds you whatever will work to keep you its slave.
"Not necessarily. See George W. Bush and Ronald 'Forgetful Jones' Reagan."
ReplyDeleteThese two individuals got the treatment of the left's "ridicule rule" of Saul Alinsky. No conservative or Republican ever said that Obama doesn't know how to use personal pronouns after a preposition:
He says, "The party was great for Michele and I." He should say, "the party was great for Michele and me." since me is after a preposition.
Bush was intelligent in money matters. The presidency made him and his family more rich. See Gardner's multiple intelligence theory for different intelligences.
I don't know much about Reagan except he changed his mind on abortion, radically. He deeply thought about it.
"As for abortion, my whole take is that if it's unborn, it's an omelet."
Your connection with preborn humans and chickens is pretty lame. See my video about this question.
"Enjoy your stay in a corrupt church that spoon feeds you whatever will work to keep you its slave."
We're all slaves of something. All humans are corrupt; your judgment that the Church is any more corrupt than anyone else is only self-congratulatory.
As far as religion with any moral dogma, I take Washington's view, "Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim tribute to patriotism who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness -- these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens. . . . reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principles."
"America! America!
God mend thine ev'ry flaw,
Confirm thy soul in self-control,
Thy liberty in law."
Plus, see this audio of Fr. Barron on freedom and following God's laws.
If George W. Bush is so great on money matters, then how did he repeatedly fail in business and lead us into the worst economic disaster since the Great Depression? What money he did have largely came from his family.
ReplyDeleteSince you are so fond of quoting the Founding Fathers, I might as well leave you with two quotes from Thomas Jefferson: "History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government," and, "In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own."
"If George W. Bush is so great on money matters, then how did he repeatedly fail in business and lead us into the worst economic disaster since the Great Depression? What money he did have largely came from his family."
ReplyDeleteI'm not saying he's great, I wrote he was intelligent. He got rich off the failures of his companies. He's not great or very ethical, but he's smart.
Yes, he had money from his family, but it's what he did with it that was intelligent in some sort of fashion.
Getting back to Obama, he wasn't very intelligent when, in the Alinsky radical model of community organizing, he used the mayor or Chicago or governor of Ill. (I can't remember which) as the prime target for the wrath of the people in a Chicago area (S. Chi. I believe) to rise against for their supposed benefit. However, he failed miserably at his community organizing there since the person (whichever he was) was elected by the same community as a sort of savior for them.
"Since you are so fond of quoting the Founding Fathers, I might as well leave you with two quotes from Thomas Jefferson: 'History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government,' and, 'In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own.'"
Did he mean Catholic, Satanist, or Anglican priest? In what age? Ad hominem attacks on every priest in every age in and before Jefferson's time is pretty unconvincing.
Having given birth 3 times I can assure you that what I carried I'm my womb wereCHILDREN not omelets! What a disgusting comment!
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